I just happen to like vulgar terms :)~

love all-ways,
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<<It seems you are a bit defensive about someone else having a different definition than you.>>

What did I say that sounded defensive?

<<but this does not mean I have to dumb myself down to communicate with you>>

But this sounds like an overt attack.

<<For instance, you think I am "splitting hairs" which can be seen by someone as you claiming another person is being overly particular.
But as we develope ourselves we come to find that by asking 'general' questions (like using a term "occult") you will only get general responses based upon a individuals personal definition.>>

I was asking exactly what I wanted to know, nothing less.

<<You also state "To communicate one must be able to duplicate (make their own) what the other is saying. " See....this MAY be true for you, it MAY be true for another, but that does not make it 'ultimately true' or universal. i.e. a personal Kabballah vs. Universal Kabballah>>

Then you tell me, How does one gain understanding? Think about it long and hard.

<<true communication by finding common definitions between parties who are beginning to comunicate. In layman's terms........true communication begins when we SHARE definitions. In order to do this we must hammer out petty differences and agree on a base definition. >>

I don't disagree. And as far as I know, Occultism is the "base definition" for what I was asking. There is still duplication that takes place in ones mind. Maybe I wasn't being clear. Duplication which (to me) means to take an object and recreate it making it your own. As compared to copying which means(to me) to thoughtlessly take a object without disecting it meaning. The difference between knowing and understanding.

<<Otherwise someone is only pretending to communicate and are not really interested in another's perspective :) >>

Kinda like forcing definitions on people, right?

<<i.e. a personal Kabballah vs. Universal Kabballah. The first is simply individual mental masturbation.>>

I have not studied the Kabballah or the Qubballah(different schools of thought), I'm currently working on other things right now. So I don't know enough about the subject to say anything on the matter. But as far as mental masturbation goes, How does one gain understanding without working through it? What's wrong with a little masturbation, eh?

<<"Splitting hairs" you bet my friend! Because in this life you need to discover truth>>

I'm very distrustful of the idea of truth. There are so many truths out there. I want to get to my own conclusion with out someone else telling me what is true and what is not.(I'm not saying that you are doing this)

<<.....and that falls somewhere between what you and I might think it is :) >>

That tends to be the case. But finding that ballance is hard.